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Mecinia Lua
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Posted - 2008.12.11 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Lyvanna Kitaen Anyone remember this thread from a year ago?
"Ferrofluid making a loss"
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=627156
It makes a bit more sense now.
That's actually pretty interesting. It is indirect evidence that the exploit was widely spread 1 year ago. I dunno about 4 years, was there even moon mining 4 years ago?
t2 Ships and components were introduced in Castor, so yes they were around 4 years ago.
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Mecinia Lua
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Posted - 2008.12.11 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: thelung187 Interesting discussion going on in the trade channels atm (/me waves to "Minerals and Manufacturing"). Rumors are a dangerous thing of course, and are entirely speculative, but the rumor is that "some" T2 BPOs were purchased with the liquid capital from the reaction exploit, and are now effectively dead due to them being on permabanned accounts.
Can anyone from CCP speak on this, as to whether any of it is true? And if it IS true, will these BPOs be re-seeded, or are they permanently gone?
Hopefully if they were in those corps/accounts they are gone forever.
It will mean more opportunities for inventors and enable them to make more of a profit. Over time that's I think how CCP plans to get rid of the t2 BPOs, as people quit and the stuff goes inactive (they didn't plan to ban them all).
This is a better initial report than we got in the t20 incident so maybe they've learned a little.
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Mecinia Lua
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Posted - 2009.01.14 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We have discovered an exploit involving starbases that made it possible for some players to gain an unfair advantage over others. We have taken measures to address this by removing the starbases used in the exploit. Additionally, assets gained from its use have been seized and bans levied against the players involved. We will continue to monitor the game for issues such as this one. We encourage players to create a petition if become aware of any activities which may permit others to gain an unfair advantage in the game.
Update by Customer Support:
On December 7th 2008, a date which will live in infamy, a petition from a concerned player alerted us to a serious problem with Starbase reactors. The petition had been filed five days earlier, a far longer waiting time than we can accept with our current queue status and we have now taken measures to fix that. We immediately started investigating the issue and found that there was indeed a problem and that it was being exploited to gain unfair advantages.
We discovered seven corporations with multiple Starbases set up for the express purpose of exploiting the issue. Three of those corporations were members of two alliances. We took immediate action against the offenders and banned over 70 accounts and destroyed all the Starbases run by the corporations in question. All the offending corporations are now effectively inactive as a result of our actions.
The corporations were producing high end materials for T2 production. Working with the Research & Statistics team we have established that the effects on the markets have been considerable and far reaching. The effects of our actions against the exploiters will also be felt on the market as the production of the materials has been cut substantially. However, supply should increase again once players have mastered the alchemy process.
We are still conducting operations to deal with this matter and we will keep you posted on the progress and results as things develop.
Update: This matter will be brought up at a CSM and CCP meeting this upcoming weekend.
I see like all such things you've dropped the ball on this.
It's been some time now and no further updates. Surely over a month of additional investigation has revealed more.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lone Gunman
Originally by: PJRid**** Just a quick question for yo all,.... have any of you seen any prices with in the market that have fallen or risen majorly scence the exploit has been found and CCP did there thing? Im just wondering,...I realy havent seen much of a rise/drop in prices in mods/fittings/ships. Im not sure if the availablility has changed any but then i really havent taken notice to that but then i am close to the oursoulart area and i ususally go there if i need anything that i cant find local. Scence the bust sofar i have put together two ships and except for the normal rise/fall of th emarket,..i really havent seen much of a flux in the market. >>>Just staying active in the discussion<<<
>R< Peace to you all,..-10 degrees this morning at 4 am in morgantown west virginia!,... later
Are you kidding, Dysprosium the base component for Ferrogel the most exploited Advanced material was already on the rise when the ban hammer hit and has now doubled since November. The Advanced materials Fermonic Condensates , Ferrogel and Hypersynaptic Fibers which require Dysprosium have now doubled since the exploit was announced. It now cost 63% more to build Tech 2 Cruisers than it did this time last month. The ship producers are not making as much profit as they were before that is why you as not seeing much of a rise in prices although they have gone up an average of about 15 to 20 percent.
Alchemy has been a complete and utter failure as predicted.
I am in Los Angeles California and today it will get up to 80 Deg F, 27 C. I think I will go to the beach.
I figured up the cost to build a Purifier at present costs using a 9 run invented BPC. Let's just say its not pretty. At present cost just material cost is just below 3 times the cost that you can find them on the market.
Now some had the old materials stockpiled, those who had bought it from the market and not been banned or had it removed. Once those materials run out, the cost of any t2 ship will rise again towards what they once were. How much they'll rise will depend on how many BPOs were lost in the bannings. It may affect some models more heavilty than others.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: PJRid**** Assuming that the people that were banned were playing second accounts or if they were stupid about it,.."ALTS" on the same account, Im jsut wondering jsut how many people that were banned are back in game? >R< Fly safe and dont screw arround on your main account =-=-=-=-=- Morgantown West virgina weather today: C-C-C-Cold and snowie,....frozen water pipes over the weekend but i got them all taken care of. 4 degrees this morning at 5 am.
From some reports they banned accounts that they could link to the offending account as well, such as same credit card and also possibly same ISPN or computer if their system logs that.
According to the recent footnotes by OZ this issue came up again at the CSM meeting. From what I gathered there is another blog coming about it that exposes far more information than we've had to date, including numbers going back the entire time of the exploit. Currently the CSMs are not allowed to reveal the numbers or details.
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